the most cursory examination shows the obvious; poor people end up in jail more often and with longer sentences.â Jim set his mug down with a thump.
âWhich doesnât mean theyâre not guilty,â Talia said. âSomething the critics are quick to point out.â
âWeâre not trying to help people get away with crimes. If one segment of the population committing similar offenses gets the benefit of probation, shouldnât everyone?â He leaned forward.
âOkay, granted. But people should be held accountable for breaking the law.â Talia lifted a shoulder.
âI thought she was here to help us.â Jim wore a crooked grin as he drank more coffee.
âI see her point, Jim. We have to answer the opponents,â Marti replied.
âExactly, especially since they have valid arguments,â Talia said. âThere is no such thing as a victimless crime when you get right down to it.â
âNot everyone sent to prison is guilty. Even those who did the crime shouldnât do the time longer because theyâre poor or Black,â Jim countered.
âLiberals use those arguments. Theyâre not in control at the moment.â
âDonât I know it.â Jim looked at Talia hard again. âI hear your firm usually comes down on the right of most issues.â
âTrue, but my boss doesnât follow strict party lines. Pete likes to make his own decisions on individual issues.â Talia took another folder from her briefcase.
âWhat about you?â Jimâs bushy eyebrows arched over his dark eyes.
Talia decided honesty was the best route to take. âIâll admit to mixed feelings on the issue.â
âHave you been the victim of a crime?â he asked.
âWe all pay one way or another,â Talia said smoothly.
âWell, Iâve been a victim. Some little creeps broke into my condo six years ago. Iâd like to get my hands on âem, too!â Marti wore a fierce expression.
âThere you go. A typical gut reaction to crime.â Talia nodded at Marti. âYouâve got to do a lot better than trying to get the public to feel sorry for convicted felons.â She wanted to steer them away from the personal.
âWhich is why Iâm interested in your thoughts.â Marti got up and poured more coffee into her mug.
âThe wording in Senator Jacksonâs bill should change. Take the bite out of your opponentâs best argument.â Talia glanced from Marti to Jim Rand. âEmphasize getting tough on crime.â
âWhat?â Jim wore a puzzled frown. He took off his glasses.
âYouâre joking.â Marti blinked at her.
Talia sat forward. âListen, Iâve seen the polls from his district. The biggest fear after job security is crime. Some of the poorest neighborhoods are held hostage by drug dealers.â
âYes, but they also have suffered the highest rate of incarceration. They see the ugly side of the law when it jails their kids,â Jim said, pointing at her with his glasses in one hand.
âMost of those people, Professor Rand, are the victims of these so-called kids. While mama is trying to get her little darlinâ out of prison, her neighbors are inside dancing for joy.â Talia met his gaze head-on. âI grew up in the same kind of place.â
âIâm not disputing the impact of crime, butââ
âYou canât ignore it either,â Talia broke in. She turned to Marti. âThe opening of the bill starts out talking about how long sentences donât change crime rates. Then it goes on about the need for social services. I say begin with the need to concentrate limited law enforcement dollars on the most heinous offenders.â
âI donât know. Senator Jackson has always been a vocal advocate for rehabilitation and crime prevention.â Martiâs neatly arched eyebrows drew together in concentration.
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